Dec 19, 2021·edited Dec 19, 2021Liked by Igor Chudov
I am based in Copenhagen, Denmark, and am following the discussion and stats around Covid very closely. I would like to make a few comments on Igor's very stimulating post:
1. First of all, the Danish health authorities do give the figures for vaxxed and non-vaxxed in hospital. Here is the link:
I have been tracking these figures, and they are becoming very interesting. The daily figure for people in hospital has stagnated for the non-vaxxed over the last 9 days, while rising relatively slowly for the vaxxed. Non-vaxxed have gone from 163 in hospital 9 days ago up to 166 today.
Vaxxed have gone, on the other hand, from 284 to 335 or from 300 to 359 if you include the partially vaccinated.
Impt to remember that Delta is still around and through the autumn the hospitalisation rate per 100,000 population has been around 3-4 times higher for the non-vaxxed. This ratio is now shrinking. Denmark has been very, very open since September, schools, bars, work, etc, with everything open, no masks, and pretty much a normal social life. It is apparent from the data that the vaccines did offer some protection, but have been waning in their impact since October, following the chronology of when people were jabbed. So inevitably there has been a rise in Delta cases.
The death rate has risen, but only at low levels.
The Danish authorities do not give direct figures for deaths on a non-vaxxed/vaxxed basis. The figure can be ascertained by looking at the Infection Breakthrough reports, published fortnightly, and then subtracting the vaccinated deaths total given there from the overall Covid death total, to find the non-vaxxed deaths total. I have done this, but the different sources do not match fully. However, it seems that the death rate for the non-vaxxed is slowing dramatically, with only 11% of non-vaxxed in the last period covered by these reports, (26th Nov. up to 7th December. Back in July 100% of Covid deaths, (which were at a very low level of 2-3 per day), were amongst the non-vaxxed. And this share has gradually been falling ever since.
2. The low rate of Omicron infection amongst the non-vaxxed could also be explained by other age and health factors, rather than immune suppression caused by the vaccine per se. The 19% of population who are not vaccinated includes children under 12, many young adults, and a cohort of people who have their own self-management programmes for staying healthy. Whereas the vaccinated, particularly the boostered, include many older, frailer people, and people with some metabolic issues. This may explain the greater susceptibility which is showing up so dramatically in the figures. But obviously something to keep a close eye on, in case immune suppression from the vaccines is involved.
3. I am not sure how Igor is working out his hospitalisation figures. A calculation is given for this in the daily Omicron reports. Here is the most recent:
This gives a hospitalisation rate of 0.6% for Omicron between the 22nd November and the 16th December. That figure may rise a little as there are more and more cases of Omicron, a few of which have yet to be processed from the 15th and 16th December. But it is doubtful if this very low figure becomes anything significant some four days after the closing date for that calculation.
Perhaps even more significant is the apparent short duration of any hospital stays that Omicron infections are leading to. By the 16th December, there had been 114 hospitalisations in total, yet by today, 19th December, there were only 30 Omicron infected people in hospital. This suggests that Omicron hospital treatments last a few days at most, and probably less for many.
Almost none of these points, which emerge from the latest data, are being discussed in the media or by the politicians. There is a desperate rush to get as many vaccinated as possible, particularly children, for whom vaccination has recently been approved. Anecdotedly, Omicron is a cold, and one can hope or presume that this will be reflected in the public discussion soon.
4. Although it is probably a little early to be conclusive, it does seem that Omicron is rapidly displacing Delta. The most recent day we have, where all Omicron cases had been counted was the 14th December, (last Tuesday), when Omicron accounted for 38.4% of all cases, up from 21.9% two days previously. If the Omicron had to continued to grow at the lower end of previous growth rate, (say 5% per day), then Omicron would be up around 65% by today. Infections have fallen markedly the last 2 days, (from over 11,000 to 8,212 today), and this could reflect a decline in Delta. Again not conclusive, but something that should be clarified over the course of the next 3-4 days.
Once again many thanks for taking the time to produce this sort of information. It’s a comfort knowing that my initial scepticism about the jab, which resulted in the end of a 35 yr friendship as this friend tried to persuade me that I must have it as she’d been involved in the initial trials and it was going to save mankind, yadda, yadda. I just didn’t trust that the pharma companies, which are after all businesses wanting to make a profit, would be open and honest about their research. They’d tapped in to the never ending money tree with this jab. They’re a pharmaceutical company who make money from people being ill, they’re hardly likely to want a ‘cure’ as it would cut off their never ending income stream. Oh dear, I do sound sceptical
First, let’s address the intelligence of the unvaccinated. Vaccine hesitancy is multi-factorial and has little to do with level of education or intelligence. Carnegie Mellon University did a study assessing vaccine hesitancy across educational levels. According to the study, what’s the educational level with the most vaccine hesitancy? Ph.D. level! Those can’t all have been awarded to liberal arts majors. Clearly, scientists who can read the data and assess risk are among the least likely to take the mRNA vaccines.
The CEO of one clinic group emailed back and said they are not agreeable.
Waiting on another.
I am thinking ... what if millions of people made appointments with their doctors for 'the vaccine' and dropped something similar on them ... no need to bring a lawyer... just read the code - hand them the docs and see what they say....
If they say pull up your sleeve... then you walk out. And inform them that you have recorded the conversation
A possible reason Delta and Omicron numbers could be going up at the same time: I was listening to a recent interview with Dr Andrew Kaufman where he discusses Omicron, and apparently the trick being used now is that they say because the spike protein in Omicron is heavily mutated, they now claim 2/3 positive markets in the PCR test as an Omicron case, while 3/3 is still delta. You’re more likely to have 2/3 markers than 3/3, hence Omicron quickly becomes the dominant strain because of the games continued to be played with the PCR test
re your third point, 'why does the vaccines make things worse' -- there's evidence that the vaccines suppress the innate immune system.
In addition, protective antibodies might work, but IMO they're limited to IgA antibodies, which with the first and second dose had waned to negligible levels by around 50 days post vaccination. Thus the protective aspect of the boosters might be over by around now for those boosted earliest, leaving only a suppressed innate immune system.
The "variant" story is pre-planned cover for vaccine injury. They knew the results from the trials and knew that massive numbers of adverse events were coming.
I am not dismissing the possibility for ADE, but I think the simplest explanation for the negative vax efficacy is the lack of durability of the vaccine. Imagine a simplified scenario where a population is 90% vaxxed while the 10% unvaxxed have 100% naturally acquired immunity. In this case, it's not hard to see the case and hospitalization number looking really bad for the vax without any kind of ADE.
The COVID-19 Pandemic is the result of a deattenuating SARS-like Live-Attenuated Vaccine (LAV), and neither vaccines nor natural immunity is going to stop it. The Omicron variant has regained the the ability for airborne transmission among mice because it’s returned far enough back toward it’s original highly-chimeric V-1000 form to “remember” the humanized mice that it was originally constructed on, which have some human immune genes spliced into their now mostly-murine genomes. When it first got out it jumped immediately into farmed mink all across the world because those are overlapping cousins with the lab ferrets it was deattenuated down on as it was weakened down into a LAV.
And now that it’s had nearly two years of circulation among every modern human society on the planet, and so like the T-1000 rebuilding itself from tiny pieces, it’s now gotten close enough back to its original form for airborne transmission among mice - ubiquitous hitchhikers that infest every single major human city on earth. There is now no way to stop the unchecked reversion of SARS-CoV-2 back to its original full-strength form except for stopping public transmission. Until the rest of the world is ready to accept that and move forward, there’s absolutely nothing at all else to be said.
Just keep talking, and pretend like you can ignore all the dying.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but with regards to hospitalizations….if someone goes to the hospital for an entirely different reason and happens to also test positive for COVID, are they counted as a COVID hospitalization? I was just thinking with how Omicron is more transmissible, this would mean way more incidents of people being in the hospital (and possibly dying) who just incidentally also have it. I recall watching a YouTube video of Dr Campbell a few days ago where he said a large percentage of the people in the hospital with omicron in South Africa were there for a different reason.
I note that there's other evidence for negative vaccine effectiveness for Omicron variant (a proper balanced cohort study from Neil Ferguson's group at Imperial College, no less -- though I note they've not actually publicised this very important finding -- weird).
Firstly, Omicron showing up is very odd, at least when compared to other variants. Secondly, its infectivity ( somewhere they stated up 70x more infectious to Bronchial tss.) is also very strange. What I think can happen is this: 1. Either ADE and Omicron is not intentionally engineered 2. Making push to infect those that until now had superior mucosal nasal response (especially children) and around 10% of others. It could be that Omicron may become more pathological as its extremely infectious and can afford going that way . Just thoughts.. :)
I am based in Copenhagen, Denmark, and am following the discussion and stats around Covid very closely. I would like to make a few comments on Igor's very stimulating post:
1. First of all, the Danish health authorities do give the figures for vaxxed and non-vaxxed in hospital. Here is the link:
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/aa41b29149f24e20a4007a0c4e13db1d/page/page_5/
I have been tracking these figures, and they are becoming very interesting. The daily figure for people in hospital has stagnated for the non-vaxxed over the last 9 days, while rising relatively slowly for the vaxxed. Non-vaxxed have gone from 163 in hospital 9 days ago up to 166 today.
Vaxxed have gone, on the other hand, from 284 to 335 or from 300 to 359 if you include the partially vaccinated.
Impt to remember that Delta is still around and through the autumn the hospitalisation rate per 100,000 population has been around 3-4 times higher for the non-vaxxed. This ratio is now shrinking. Denmark has been very, very open since September, schools, bars, work, etc, with everything open, no masks, and pretty much a normal social life. It is apparent from the data that the vaccines did offer some protection, but have been waning in their impact since October, following the chronology of when people were jabbed. So inevitably there has been a rise in Delta cases.
The death rate has risen, but only at low levels.
The Danish authorities do not give direct figures for deaths on a non-vaxxed/vaxxed basis. The figure can be ascertained by looking at the Infection Breakthrough reports, published fortnightly, and then subtracting the vaccinated deaths total given there from the overall Covid death total, to find the non-vaxxed deaths total. I have done this, but the different sources do not match fully. However, it seems that the death rate for the non-vaxxed is slowing dramatically, with only 11% of non-vaxxed in the last period covered by these reports, (26th Nov. up to 7th December. Back in July 100% of Covid deaths, (which were at a very low level of 2-3 per day), were amongst the non-vaxxed. And this share has gradually been falling ever since.
2. The low rate of Omicron infection amongst the non-vaxxed could also be explained by other age and health factors, rather than immune suppression caused by the vaccine per se. The 19% of population who are not vaccinated includes children under 12, many young adults, and a cohort of people who have their own self-management programmes for staying healthy. Whereas the vaccinated, particularly the boostered, include many older, frailer people, and people with some metabolic issues. This may explain the greater susceptibility which is showing up so dramatically in the figures. But obviously something to keep a close eye on, in case immune suppression from the vaccines is involved.
3. I am not sure how Igor is working out his hospitalisation figures. A calculation is given for this in the daily Omicron reports. Here is the most recent:
Tabel 6, Page 8: https://www.ssi.dk/-/media/cdn/files/covid19/omikron/statusrapport/rapport-omikronvarianten-19122021-hp16.pdf?la=da
This gives a hospitalisation rate of 0.6% for Omicron between the 22nd November and the 16th December. That figure may rise a little as there are more and more cases of Omicron, a few of which have yet to be processed from the 15th and 16th December. But it is doubtful if this very low figure becomes anything significant some four days after the closing date for that calculation.
Perhaps even more significant is the apparent short duration of any hospital stays that Omicron infections are leading to. By the 16th December, there had been 114 hospitalisations in total, yet by today, 19th December, there were only 30 Omicron infected people in hospital. This suggests that Omicron hospital treatments last a few days at most, and probably less for many.
Almost none of these points, which emerge from the latest data, are being discussed in the media or by the politicians. There is a desperate rush to get as many vaccinated as possible, particularly children, for whom vaccination has recently been approved. Anecdotedly, Omicron is a cold, and one can hope or presume that this will be reflected in the public discussion soon.
4. Although it is probably a little early to be conclusive, it does seem that Omicron is rapidly displacing Delta. The most recent day we have, where all Omicron cases had been counted was the 14th December, (last Tuesday), when Omicron accounted for 38.4% of all cases, up from 21.9% two days previously. If the Omicron had to continued to grow at the lower end of previous growth rate, (say 5% per day), then Omicron would be up around 65% by today. Infections have fallen markedly the last 2 days, (from over 11,000 to 8,212 today), and this could reflect a decline in Delta. Again not conclusive, but something that should be clarified over the course of the next 3-4 days.
2.
Once again many thanks for taking the time to produce this sort of information. It’s a comfort knowing that my initial scepticism about the jab, which resulted in the end of a 35 yr friendship as this friend tried to persuade me that I must have it as she’d been involved in the initial trials and it was going to save mankind, yadda, yadda. I just didn’t trust that the pharma companies, which are after all businesses wanting to make a profit, would be open and honest about their research. They’d tapped in to the never ending money tree with this jab. They’re a pharmaceutical company who make money from people being ill, they’re hardly likely to want a ‘cure’ as it would cut off their never ending income stream. Oh dear, I do sound sceptical
The Unvaccinated Are Looking Smarter Every Week
First, let’s address the intelligence of the unvaccinated. Vaccine hesitancy is multi-factorial and has little to do with level of education or intelligence. Carnegie Mellon University did a study assessing vaccine hesitancy across educational levels. According to the study, what’s the educational level with the most vaccine hesitancy? Ph.D. level! Those can’t all have been awarded to liberal arts majors. Clearly, scientists who can read the data and assess risk are among the least likely to take the mRNA vaccines.
Another excellent article.
BTW - I contacted two clinics to try to make a vaccination appointment ... but only under the following conditions:
1. A doctor must administer it
2. I will bring a lawyer along as a witness (ideally allowed to record the visit)
3. I will state that I am being coerced to take the vaccine
4. I will read a summary of the Nuremberg Code
5. I will present a print out of the main page of vaccine injuries and deaths https://openvaers.com/covid-data
The CEO of one clinic group emailed back and said they are not agreeable.
Waiting on another.
I am thinking ... what if millions of people made appointments with their doctors for 'the vaccine' and dropped something similar on them ... no need to bring a lawyer... just read the code - hand them the docs and see what they say....
If they say pull up your sleeve... then you walk out. And inform them that you have recorded the conversation
Make them sweat.
in a nut shell "vaccines are destructive"
A possible reason Delta and Omicron numbers could be going up at the same time: I was listening to a recent interview with Dr Andrew Kaufman where he discusses Omicron, and apparently the trick being used now is that they say because the spike protein in Omicron is heavily mutated, they now claim 2/3 positive markets in the PCR test as an Omicron case, while 3/3 is still delta. You’re more likely to have 2/3 markers than 3/3, hence Omicron quickly becomes the dominant strain because of the games continued to be played with the PCR test
re your third point, 'why does the vaccines make things worse' -- there's evidence that the vaccines suppress the innate immune system.
In addition, protective antibodies might work, but IMO they're limited to IgA antibodies, which with the first and second dose had waned to negligible levels by around 50 days post vaccination. Thus the protective aspect of the boosters might be over by around now for those boosted earliest, leaving only a suppressed innate immune system.
Omicron Variant= Vaccine Injury
The "variant" story is pre-planned cover for vaccine injury. They knew the results from the trials and knew that massive numbers of adverse events were coming.
None of this is accidental.
Any way to know if the “not vaxed” are also covid naive? Is prior infection helping? Is covid naive better?
I am not dismissing the possibility for ADE, but I think the simplest explanation for the negative vax efficacy is the lack of durability of the vaccine. Imagine a simplified scenario where a population is 90% vaxxed while the 10% unvaxxed have 100% naturally acquired immunity. In this case, it's not hard to see the case and hospitalization number looking really bad for the vax without any kind of ADE.
The COVID-19 Pandemic is the result of a deattenuating SARS-like Live-Attenuated Vaccine (LAV), and neither vaccines nor natural immunity is going to stop it. The Omicron variant has regained the the ability for airborne transmission among mice because it’s returned far enough back toward it’s original highly-chimeric V-1000 form to “remember” the humanized mice that it was originally constructed on, which have some human immune genes spliced into their now mostly-murine genomes. When it first got out it jumped immediately into farmed mink all across the world because those are overlapping cousins with the lab ferrets it was deattenuated down on as it was weakened down into a LAV.
And now that it’s had nearly two years of circulation among every modern human society on the planet, and so like the T-1000 rebuilding itself from tiny pieces, it’s now gotten close enough back to its original form for airborne transmission among mice - ubiquitous hitchhikers that infest every single major human city on earth. There is now no way to stop the unchecked reversion of SARS-CoV-2 back to its original full-strength form except for stopping public transmission. Until the rest of the world is ready to accept that and move forward, there’s absolutely nothing at all else to be said.
Just keep talking, and pretend like you can ignore all the dying.
https://harvard2thebighouse.substack.com/p/the-last-interview-the-sirotkins
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but with regards to hospitalizations….if someone goes to the hospital for an entirely different reason and happens to also test positive for COVID, are they counted as a COVID hospitalization? I was just thinking with how Omicron is more transmissible, this would mean way more incidents of people being in the hospital (and possibly dying) who just incidentally also have it. I recall watching a YouTube video of Dr Campbell a few days ago where he said a large percentage of the people in the hospital with omicron in South Africa were there for a different reason.
I note that there's other evidence for negative vaccine effectiveness for Omicron variant (a proper balanced cohort study from Neil Ferguson's group at Imperial College, no less -- though I note they've not actually publicised this very important finding -- weird).
I've put a post up about it -- https://bartram.substack.com/p/even-more-negative-vaccine-efficiency
Firstly, Omicron showing up is very odd, at least when compared to other variants. Secondly, its infectivity ( somewhere they stated up 70x more infectious to Bronchial tss.) is also very strange. What I think can happen is this: 1. Either ADE and Omicron is not intentionally engineered 2. Making push to infect those that until now had superior mucosal nasal response (especially children) and around 10% of others. It could be that Omicron may become more pathological as its extremely infectious and can afford going that way . Just thoughts.. :)
Can people get both Omicron and Delta at once? I know the Moderna creep said the viruses might "combine."
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