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As a health care provider seeing new "long hauler" patients to the tune of 2 to 4 new patients every month, I'd be hard pressed to question that it exists.

In my 20 years as a primary care physician, I've rarely seen folks come to harm after the flu/colds. Not saying never, but definitely more on the rare side.

Since the pandemic however, I've been seeing a regular population of patients - some who never tested positive for the rona, but most that did. They all share many similar symptoms - the most common being brain fog and fatigue/exhaustion.

Personally, I'm going to trust my patients over any study such as this. Remember, the conventional medical establishment has a LOOONG history of gas lighting all sorts of health complaints, notably chronic fatigue/fibroymalgia, vax injuries and the like.

I also have some issues with the study. Firstly, using using the pcr covid test to stratify who had covid and who didn't does not inspire confidence ( I can’t find any mention of what they used for testing, but I’m assuming it’s the PCR). That's putting far too much faith in the PCR for my taste. In addition, NOT including jab status is another clear confounder. Finally, the conflicts of interest stated in the study are quite significant and numerous.

I am NOT a study design expert, but I'd say they would do better to have the study done with folks who have zero conflict of interest, stratify the groups better including jab status as a variable, and lastly either use antibody testing, T cell testing or some other more definitive testing to separate the covid positive from the negative.

Call me a quack, but I tend to side with my patients. This study, for the reasons above, don't really change my take on long haulers to any great degree. My responsibility to my patients is still such that they need to be taken seriously, treated effectively & supported regardless of "official" opinions.

Many of the long haulers I've treated are patients I've been seeing for years. They are NOT malingers or given to hyperbole - their suffering is real. None the less, I'm not going to jump up on a pedestal and say I know they are or are not suffering sequelae from having had covid - that's more a moot point.

The main point is these patients DEFINITELY exist, are NOT rare, and deserve to be taken seriously and get effective treatment.

Thankfully, the spike injured CAN definitely recover. This is true for both camps; the covid injured and the jab injured.

The covid injured (long haulers) definitely tend to recover quicker. They also on the whole have less symptoms and tend to be markedly less gravely harmed. I'm definitely seeing more jab injured be full on disabled. In addition, they tend to have a stunning array of brandy new very bad symptoms.

The jab injured also recover, but it's slower - especially in the jab disabled folks. On the whole, I'm glad someone is studying these folks. But we really need to be vigorously studying both cohorts (covid AND the jab injured).

The other issue is I'm seeing some patients who appear to be suffering from both. Also there are no shortage of "mystery" patients who it's pretty near impossible to determine an etiology. Some you can’t tell if their often bizarre and brand new symptoms are from the jab, the infection itself, a combo of both, or some other entirely unrelated etiology.

In addition, it's WAY more important to do studies that stratify what treatments are getting good replicable outcomes with both groups of patients. This is a WAY more important need - getting them help. To my mind, our job as providers is to provide answers for sure, not get caught in trying to decide if our patients issues are real. More important by far, is to provide relief - and really full on recovery is the goal. That's my priority, and I hope the research community will begin to simply focus on what works to help these folks.

Anyways, that's my 2 cents.

Peace

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I think long stupid is a bigger problem.

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Dec 3, 2022Liked by Igor Chudov

Igor you don't know me and I don't know you but while running the risk of sounding like a fanboy I have to express my gratitude for your continual data centred analysis of this aberration in human history. It was voices like yours that spoke to my serious misgivings about the political narrative and gave me courage to walk the path I chose. Even now I still look forward to your updates and hope that this message finds you in good health.

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Dec 3, 2022Liked by Igor Chudov

Alleged long covid is covering for Vax injuries, illnesses sometimes have lingering effects but to blame all symptoms of illness on long covid is just a way to dismiss vaccine side effects.

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Dec 3, 2022Liked by Igor Chudov

Igor, you are lacking a lot of good information. I am a retired RN. The reason it appears we have not had flu for the past 2.5 years is because the hospitals called everything “Covid” so that they would get paid the big bucks from the government.

The medical profession’s lack of integrity is the reason why people ... smart people are not going to the hospitals.. there are some doctors with integrity who are speaking up and speaking the truth.

The pharmaceutical companies did not want people to know Hydrochlroquine and Ivermectin work for Covid because that was an affordable cure. Biden, Fauci, CDC, WHO, NIH all we’re pushing the vaccine because they wanted to make billions. Follow the money.

Now that millions of people, mostly elderly have died and millions have COVID vaccine/ bio weapon injuries, they are having to face reality.

Many nurses and doctors have quit their jobs or been fired for speaking the truth. These were not even real vaccines. WAKE UP!!!!

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My theory is that drop in the robustness of immunity leads to all sorts of latent crap becoming not latent which, in combination with high environmental toxicity) leads to chronic disease, which has been around for decades, causing a lot of suffering to a lot of people and rarely properly diagnosed. By "latent crap" I mean numerous known and unknown microorganisms, opportunistic infections, etc, that a healthy person can live with his entire life without even noticing, and a person whose immune system has stopped working well gets to experience the effects of. Plus, toxins alone are not a walk in the Garden of Eden, either.

After all, Klaus Schwab himself (or at least the WEB) claims that antimicrobial resistance is going to to the the next big epidemic, ec

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Dec 3, 2022Liked by Igor Chudov

I had a post viral fatigue syndrome in 2005 for 3 months and 2008 for another 2 months. My symptoms were consistent with what we also referred to as chronic fatigue syndrome. The assumed viral infection was Epstein Barr, though coulda been most any other virus. So whatever it's from, I sympathize with those who suffer. I had symptoms return in 2015, and I used DNRS training to finally relieve my fatigue and other immunoweirdness symptoms in 2019.

retrainingthebrain.com if anyone interested. They've worked well with "long covid" and plenty other immunoweirdness.

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Dec 3, 2022Liked by Igor Chudov

I know a couple of people who had "long Covid". The more I research, the more confident I am that there were multiple man-made pathogens deliberately released at the same time. There may have also been a live attenuated vaccine that went wrong somewhere along the line as well.

This is just one incredible piece of evidence I found recently:

"There is one piece of the puzzle of Samoa that has been bothering me. That is, why did a relatively vaccinated population manage to fare so badly with a measles outbreak? In order for that to happen it had to be an unusual strain. However, the official line was that the strain was a D8 strain, not a "vaccine-related A strain".

What has always niggled me is that I have not been able to find any genomic confirmation of the Samoa measles strain in Genbank. The only strain documented from 2019 is from Western Samoa, not Samoa. So how do we know that it was a “natural” measles strain? We don’t.

Now comes the insidious bit. The bit that links the fact that there is emerging evidence that SARS-CoV-2 appeared before December 2019.

Imagine that the world’s worst psychopaths (that is, gain-of-function virologists3) were to create a chimaera of one of the most infectious viruses known to man (aka measles) and SARS-Cov-2. Well they did it, and I've been banging on about it for a year. It's this little gem:

That’s right. A measles-SARS-CoV-2 chimera. The measles component is supposedly taken from this paper and uses a construct from Roberto Cattaneo (Genbank MH144178) published in 2015."

https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/the-killing-fields-of-samoa

I am convinced Omicron was released deliberately. It may be the case that ALL the variants are being released deliberately.

What I keep coming back to is quasi-species swarm theory and the Veritas DARPA leaks, which I am convinced are genuine: SARS-COV-2 isn't really a "virus", it's a chimerically engineered spike protein hitching a ride on a coronavirus quasi-species swarm.

In light of the article above, it would seem that you can engineer a coronavirus quasi-species swarm to deliver a payload of just about anything you want.

So the bottom line is, I don't even know who was exposed to what. I almost certainly caught "Covid" in December 2019, it kicked the crap out of me for six weeks, and in the proceeding three months I had climbed the equivalent of Mount Everest two and a half times from sea level (more than 21,000m of vertical assent, or Olympus Mons on Mars. the highest mountain in the solar system). I was walking 8-16 miles a day climbing 300-600m a day. I was insanely fit. Nothing has ever put me on my back like that before. Even five weeks later I could barely walk a mile down the road. It was nuts.

One of the other things that makes me think long Covid is real (apart from the fact I know two people who have had it) is that Jacqui Deevoy's daughter had it. Jacqui broke the Midazolam story in the UK. I saw she was having a chat with her daughter about it on twitter, I had interacted with Jacqui several times and felt like I could butt in. I suggested her daughter try Ivermectin, Vit D, Zinc and Quercetin. They thanked me but I don't know what the outcome was.

I keep saying this but the origins of Covid is so murky I doubt we will ever get to the bottom of it. Psyops within psyops within psyops.

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Dec 3, 2022Liked by Igor Chudov

Personally, my husband tested positive in Jan 2021, got really sick for 10 days. 5 days after he tested positive, I had fever, small cough, completely lost my taste and smell but was never super sweet KC at all. Later, I would smell terrible “phantom smells”, then a lot of it got back to normal but not all. Peanut butter, smoke, coke, beer, oranges, and many other things still smell and taste waaay off. My favorite perfume smells absolutely terrible now.

About 1 month later after my husband tested positive, our middle daughter, (10 at the time) was rushed to the ER after a week of progressive decline. She went into heart failure, acute kidney failure, was diagnosed with MIS-C, a month after that diagnosed with myocarditis after an MRI showed a scar/and or swollen tissue on her heart. 1 year later, the scar was no longer there. I could write a book about that experience, it was traumatic, with some moments that were wonderful too, but overall, I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

Needless to say, I still don’t have my full smell and taste back, 23 months after. Went through months of fatigue and shortness of breath. Just started a round of steroids and ivermectin a Dr. Gave me to help get it back.

I don’t know how useful the term “Long Covid” actually is. Personally it just seems to me that it is “Covid Damage,” quite possibly from the spike protein. Maybe some of us have a tougher time clearing the virus and the viral debris? Or maybe for whatever reason, it infected us in a different way that initially seemed more mild, but then long term is actually quite bad. Hoping the damage can be reversed. I’m a perpetual optimist, so I believe that it will reverse.

Sidenote, we have never had any Covid vaccines, and are a very healthy active family. Had my daughter extensively tested after MIS-C and a few things showed up. 2 of note: she had a major vitamin D deficiency and shows high sensitivity to gluten. One of the best studies on MIS-C kids I have read (Boston University/Harvard) hypothesizes that many of the kids have gut inflammation. After our huge scare, as a family we went off gluten and my daughter is healing up beautifully.

A long, convoluted response, but for me “long Covid” or “Covid damage” is a very real thing.

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Dec 3, 2022·edited Dec 3, 2022Liked by Igor Chudov

Long COVID exists.

Long COVID exists among vacksed and unvacksed and among those who received appropriate early treatment. Our family is proof of this. One family member STILL has residual effects now four months later. 😠

Long other things exist.

Not everything that is being called long COVID is long COVID. Naive drs are calling vacks injured folks “long COVID” because they have no other diagnostic “basket” into which they can put these people. (Somewhat like folks in the past with unexplained symptoms have been put in a “chronic fatigue” or “fibromyalgia” basket.). Informed and aware drs are calling vacks injured folks “long COVID” because (1) that is a diagnosis for which insurance will pay and apparently there is no ICD-10 code for COVID vacks injury. (Personally, I say, screw that and call it either general vacks injury or call is “autoimmune, not otherwise specified,” or “chronic fatigue,” or whatever other generic “syndrome” covers the symptoms. But PUH-LEASE do not lie to patients or insurance by calling it something it isn’t.) and (2) some patients are not yet ready to hear that they are vacks-injured, so calling it “long COVID” skirts this issue. Again, I think this slight of words is wrong. But it is happening nonetheless.

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Dec 3, 2022·edited Dec 3, 2022Liked by Igor Chudov

I believe long covid is a real thing. But so is long flu, long pneumonia, long cancer, long common cold, long tuberculosis, etc. In other words, this is no more or less profound an observation than: when the body is sick, and recovers, there are lasting effects.😲One does not immediately go back to 100%. The body has been challenged, sometimes in serious ways that are not immediately detectable. The question is: why do we never hear about the other “long” diseases? The answer has to be that in the case of this disease, it is being used as a manipulation tactic to keep people in a state of terror and therefore compliant with future mandates, directives, shots, etc. What else could it be?

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I think the majority is made up and is a convenient excuse to hide vaccine adverse events

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Dec 3, 2022Liked by Igor Chudov

I caught “Omicron” in January of this year. I’m young, thin, no underlying issues, no jab. The initial viral illness lasted about a day and half for me, had some mild sniffles and a complete loss of taste. I thought that was it. Felt rather lethargic until exactly two weeks after the initial onset of symptoms, when I woke up with the most severe, nerve-like neck pain I’ve ever experienced. It got worse until on day 3, the pain and resulting nausea were so bad that I went to the hospital to rule out meningitis.

Turned out to be a post-viral inflammatory reaction from covid. Two others in my family also experienced this neck pain around the same time with Omicron, but to a lesser extent than I. The pain went away after a week.

That was the start of MONTHS of misery for me. I had insomnia, depression (never had this before in my life), trouble swallowing, motion sickness to where I couldn’t leave the house, debilitating weakness in my neck all the way down to low back, and just very little tolerance for activities of daily living. Wiping down the kitchen table exhausted me! Normally I’m full of energy, caring for four small children, but I went through the darkest period of my life with the effects of this illness. I also had several months of pain and stiffness in my wrists and ankles. To this day, I have low back pain that has never cleared, and I feel like my body has aged several decades. Up until recently, I had extreme muscle twitching all throughout my legs at night.

As an RN, I really dove into the research to try to figure out what was wrong with me and how to heal myself since the mainstream medical establishment has no answers. Closest guess I can make is that covid caused vagus nerve inflammation and an autoimmune response for me. It has been very real, even though I’m a ‘mind-over-matter’ type of person and did my best to try to ignore symptoms.

It irks me when people try to say ‘long covid’ is just a cover for vax injuries. Yes, that’s the case for some. But let’s not ignore the people injured by the virus itself...they are victims in this whole nightmare, as well.

I hope to regain the health I had prior to January at some point. But honestly, knowing how incredibly well-engineered the spike protein is to cause many mechanisms of injury, I’m very uncertain about what the future holds for those previously infected. Not to mention the injected....

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Dec 3, 2022Liked by Igor Chudov

I was hospitalized with Covid pneumonia in August 2021, with a two week stay and months of recovery. 1 year and 4 months later I am mostly breathing normal again. I consider my lung issues to be related since they have not 100% recovered since 2021. So yes, long Covid exists. My wife lost a lot of hair, not as bad as a cancer patient on Chemo, but enough that her hair is still not the same 1.5 years later. Fortunately, like my lungs, we are seeing recovery and new hair. For reference, we never got jabbed, so this is not long Covid from Pfizer poison.

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Listen to the treating doctors on this one. I know numerous people with long covid, and developed mast cell activation after my first covid, whereby I was so allergic to everything I could eat only chicken as I would have anaphylaxis from being in the same room as alcohol, vinegar, banana - anything with histamine. (Doc explained the theory that the lungs of fire feeling with c v is actually a histamine reaction...) I also have lung damage and my breathing has never been the same since covid, which doesn't surprise me because in my experience cv is nothing like flu at all, there is no mucus or sniffles whatsoever, just burning of the lungs until breathing becomes difficult because there is no gas exchange. Feels more like a blood/vascular disorder than a flu. SARS has been known to cause a lot of ME/CFS in the same way that Epstein Barr has been a known trigger. I have not known flu to trigger this type of problem but I'm sure it does cause long term issues - given how much the CDC hypes the flubthough I would have thought they would be publicising bad outcomes.

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Dec 3, 2022Liked by Igor Chudov

There is no more flu...it's been disappeared over the last 2 1/2 years. The covid tests have never been standardized and can't be trusted so if you're sick, who knows what you got.

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